Friday, December 16, 2005

More evidence of a lack of responsibility

Yet more evidence that the current Liberal culture is intent on removing responsibility from sex.

This is really sad. Good job, liberals!

5 Comments:

Blogger fuzzy_beaver said...

Why are you so hell-bent on infringing on others' lives? I'm assuming you think homosexuality is a sin and punishable by eternal damnation? What gives you the right to pass judgement on others? This is a way for people to reach out to someone they may have infected, to let them know before they infect someone else. I know that people who are infected shouldn't be having unprotected sex, but guess what , SO DO THEY!!!! However, they do it anyway. Just like teen sex. We can either give them condoms or let the STD rate increase, abortions increase, foster homes grow, etc... They're going to do it anyway. You have to accept that. And that seems to be the problem with conservatism. It can not accept anything new. Just because it wasn't like this 100 years ago, then it shouldn't be now! A sad way to view the world.

It seems the only purpose in the sad life of a fundamentalist xtian, is to point out the faults of others, or at least what your religion or pastor tells you is a fault. I seem to remember something in bible saying "judge not lest ye be judged". But knowing that the bible contradicts itself, almost page by page, I know you'll come up with something to dispute that YOU, the all knowing xtian, can judge whomever you want.

8:17 AM  
Blogger moderate_christian said...

I agree with you on the fact that people are going to do whatever they want. There's not much that we can do to stop them.

You are right also in the fact that CHRISTians should not be judging other people. We are all sinners and it is up to the father to decide who goes to heaven and who goes to hell.

My personal belief though is that yes, I can believe that something is wrong and immoral, but at the same time I am to not judge the person committing the act and I am called to respect that person and love that person. In my encounters with most CHRISTians, they seem to be quick on the judging gun and not on the love gun.

The bible does say that "judge not lest ye be judged" but it also calls us to love our neighbor as well. And who is our neighbor? Well the parable of the good samaritan I believe explains that.

8:45 AM  
Blogger J. J. Horner said...

I'm sorry, but did I say anything about infringing on rights? No, I made a reference to the lack of responsibility some appear to have. Yes, homosexuality is a sin. Do I think any sin is better or worse than another? No. All sins are steps away from God. Do I think I am any better than a homosexual? No, because I am not sinless. If my only sin were to be disrespectful to my father, I'd still be no better than a homosexual.

It is amazing that you can read something so short and gain so much knowledge about me...

I believe in responsibility. I believe that we are making it easier for people to live without responsibility. We can also try to convince these people to live a more responsible life.

The Bible does not contradict itself page by page. Have you actually read it? Have you actually studied it? I'm no scholar, although I have read most of the bible, and many, many companion texts. I'm not perfect, but I listen to the sermons of many people who are experts on the Bible. I've never seen any hard contradictions, just some changes in course...

You really have a lot of anger here, fuzzy. Is there anything I can do to help?

Moderate, you don't seem to want to voice the most obvious point: some people lack responsibility. When you were growing up, you probably did things you weren't supposed to do. When you got older, I bet you stopped doing so much because you became more responsible. I'm not judging them because they have unprotected sex, or sex out of wedlock. I'm making a personal judgement that I think using an anonymous notification system is pretty cheap and spineless. It shows what emotional children some of these people are. Is that a religious judgement? No. It is a judgement? Yes. Just like your "quick on the judging gun" comment.

I believe that if we forced some responsibility on some of these people, it'd make things better. If we started charging people with unintentional manslaughter for infecting another person with AIDS, they'd probably not have as much unprotected sex. If they still have unprotected sex, we should up the charges. These people are engaging in intentionally unsafe acts that affect the lives of others. Where's fuzzy's outrage at some people infringing on the rights of others to live? Oh, that's right, fuzzy only wants immorality, not responsibility.

Now, I'm not judging, so don't take this the wrong way. Our only guide to what is right and what is wrong is God. Being a 'moderate' christian seems to be a misnomer. I don't understand what that is. Could you explain?

Rights require responsibility. Rights are not free. Many have died to protect those rights, and I get burned up every time I see someone expect to exercise those rights free of consequences. Be adults, people! If you do something that affects the lives of others, live up to it! If someone is unable to legally accept the consequences, they shouldn't be allowed to have sex. Once they have sex, they should be given legal adulthood with all the responsibilities and burdens that come. Why is this so hard for some of you people to understand?

10:51 AM  
Blogger fuzzy_beaver said...

My outrage on infringing on the rights of others to live is that I believe it's wrong to go around having unprotected sex while infected, but I still don't believe on infringing on the personal choices of others. It's as simple as that. I am not the judge of anyone. I am not the morality police, as you so tirelessly try to be. I want others to make their decisions and everyone else to leave them alone. Do you think that gay men do not know that having unprotected sex is VERY RISKY??? They do, but they do it anyway. (Deja vu...)

And to clarify something for you, our "only guide" to right and wrong is not god. Sorry, to burst your holier than thou bubble, but god isn't necessary to distinguish right and wrong. Maybe for you, but not for everyone else. The sooner you realize that religion is personal and not something EVERYONE needs, the better off we all will be. The one underlying theme to my posts is for you to let others make their own decisions. Until it affects you, then leave everyone else alone. I'm not telling you how to live, but you like to tell others that, they should be held accountable for this... They shouldn't be allowed to do that... Get over it. I am not for immorality. I am for moral freedom. That which is free from religious and radical persecution. Morals and religion are two different things. Learn the distinction.

11:14 AM  
Blogger J. J. Horner said...

*tap* *tap* Is this thing on? As you will probably realize when you read the post, I was speaking to moderate_christian about who is OUR (moderate christian and I) sole source of right and wrong is. We, as Christians, believe that God is the Alpha and Omega. The beginning and end of all things right and good. I was addressing moderate_christian. Not you. Read closer next time.

As for 'morality police', do you believe that those endangering the lives of others should be held accountable? I don't see how you could, considering you favor their unfettered right to do what they want without repurcussions.

As you may surmise, I'm a Christian, and therefore I believe that God is the source of all morality. For me, therefore, religion and morality are entertwined. I think it is pretty hard for someone to have morality when they do not believe in the religious constructs of right and wrong. Find a reference to right and wrong from a non-religious person with no religious education, and I'll admit I'm wrong.

I believe in letting others make their own decisions. I, unlike what you appear to be championing, also believe in letting people be responsible. If someone chooses to have unprotected sex, he should deal with the consequences. A man who has unprotected sex with a woman is on the hook for child support if the woman chooses to have the child. Is this right? I'd like you to answer that. Let me voice it another way:

Is a man responsible for the child of a one-night hookup? Is a man responsible for raping a woman when they are both drunk? Is a man responsible for the death of another for drunk driving? In most cases, you would probably say yes. Why, then, do you refuse to hold the little 'typhoid marys' of the world accountable for the diseases they spread? They had unprotected sex and made a decision for someone else. They chose to infect another without warning him (or her) that there are definite repurcussions. Should they be held accountable?

3:18 PM  

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